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the stories and much more at 6:00. >> all right, dana, thanks. we'll see you then. "cbs evening news with scott pelley" is next. the latest news and weather are always on cbssf.com. >> check out the doppler radar. >> hi-def doppler. our radar is your radar. there you go. [ laughter ] >> we're giving that way. stay dry. captions by: caption colorado comments@captioncolorado.com >> pelley: tonight, a surprising surge. >> pelley: tonight, a surprising surge. the economy is growing faster than we thought. anthony mason on whether it can last. the u.n. votes on whether to recognize palestine as a state. jim axle road is at the u.n. aden pizzey is with the palestinians. we knew the polar ice was melting, but today we learned how fast. >> we're seeing it here.
the stories and much more at 6:00. >> all right, dana, thanks. we'll see you then. "cbs evening news with scott pelley" is next. the latest news and weather are always on cbssf.com. >> check out the doppler radar. >> hi-def doppler. our radar is your radar. there you go. [ laughter ] >> we're giving that way. stay dry. captions by: caption colorado comments@captioncolorado.com >> pelley: tonight, a surprising surge. >> pelley: tonight, a surprising...
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i'm dana king. >> i'm allen martin. ken bastida has the night off tonight. we have team coverage of the storms headed our way. first, paul deanno. >> one down, two to go. the next two are gonna be the big ones. a lot of rainfall heading our way, but not tonight. here is our high-def doppler. can't find a drop of rainfall. here's what to expect. we will be rain-free all the way through tomorrow afternoon. but then here comes the heavy stuff. the heavy stuff will arrive from the north and we'll all be tapping into that heavy rainfall by friday morning. look at these rainfall totals. that yellow color you see in the north bay, that's five inches of rain by saturday evening. that's only round no. 2. we still have round no. 3 after that. total rainfall? we're talking 6 to 9 inches in portions of sonoma county. 5 to 9 inches for marin and alameda, including oakland. 3 to 6 inches of rain by sunday. we'll talk about when the sunshine is going to come back, coming up in just a few minutes. >>> elizabeth cook is in the part of the bay area that was the wettest today.
i'm dana king. >> i'm allen martin. ken bastida has the night off tonight. we have team coverage of the storms headed our way. first, paul deanno. >> one down, two to go. the next two are gonna be the big ones. a lot of rainfall heading our way, but not tonight. here is our high-def doppler. can't find a drop of rainfall. here's what to expect. we will be rain-free all the way through tomorrow afternoon. but then here comes the heavy stuff. the heavy stuff will arrive from the north...
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clear skies as -- okay, dana. >> raiders! >> play host to the denver broncos. 58 degrees, low 50s by the end of the game. tomorrow your pinpoint forecast kick-starting with the coast into the 50s, winds under 10 miles per hour. 60s common around the peninsula including south san francisco all the way into woodside, los altos. 62 gilroy. everybody is not low 60s. those numbers are seasonal for this time of the year similar to what we experienced today. 69 in san jose a couple of degrees cooler than that for your thursday. 58 degrees in sausalito. meanwhile the extended forecast nothing but a string of sunshiny days all the way through the weekend. hey, if you're talking about doing some skiing, north star more snow today. 4" at squaw valley. red dog got to do it this year. meanwhile, we are talking sugar bowl with partly sunny conditions over the weekend. that's your pinpoint forecast. >> thank you. >>> jazz pioneer and bay area native dave brubeck has died a day shy of his 92nd birthday. brubeck's groundbreaking signature sou
clear skies as -- okay, dana. >> raiders! >> play host to the denver broncos. 58 degrees, low 50s by the end of the game. tomorrow your pinpoint forecast kick-starting with the coast into the 50s, winds under 10 miles per hour. 60s common around the peninsula including south san francisco all the way into woodside, los altos. 62 gilroy. everybody is not low 60s. those numbers are seasonal for this time of the year similar to what we experienced today. 69 in san jose a couple of...
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i'm ken bastida. >> i'm dana king. tonight we hear from those bay area fifth graders, girls who tell us they are being bullied, even physically threatened at school, and that teachers aren't doing anything about it. watch what allen martin found when he went to check out the school. >> reporter: the school sign proclaims in bold letters, be safe, responsible, respectful. but cooper elementary school in vallejo is anything but, according to these two fifth graders. >> they punch us in the stomach. they slap us. >> reporter: samantha and autumn say they're constantly bullied in school by two brothers. samantha's parents say they knew there was a problem. >> my daughter coming home crying, telling me she was being called names, tramp, whore, slut. >> reporter: but the bullying got much worse. >> he said, i know where you live. i was like, how? i looked at his hand and could see a pocket knife. >> reporter: basically it got to the point where a child pulled a knife. >> a child pulled a nice on our daughter. >> reporter: sa
i'm ken bastida. >> i'm dana king. tonight we hear from those bay area fifth graders, girls who tell us they are being bullied, even physically threatened at school, and that teachers aren't doing anything about it. watch what allen martin found when he went to check out the school. >> reporter: the school sign proclaims in bold letters, be safe, responsible, respectful. but cooper elementary school in vallejo is anything but, according to these two fifth graders. >> they...
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does and i'm dana king. the couple have been missing since last week's storm. they were found in the snow. roderick and his girlfriend paula lain were last seen at this 7-eleven before leaving for nevada. 15 minutes ago we learned that a relative who was looking for the couple found paula. she was found crawling in the snow. tonight she is in the hospital. the condition of her boyfriend is not yet known. it appears the couple got snuck in the snow and roderick throat get help. he never returned to the car. investigators spoke just a few minutes ago. >> they may have been sightseeing and got stuck in the snow. reports are that they may have stayed in the vehicle for at least one night. roderick left the vehicle to seek help. when he did not return paula left to seek help. >> paula is in stable condition with mild frostbite. no official word yet about what happened to her boyfriend. >> developing news tonight. silicon valley tycoon john mcafee is under arrest. he's been on the run since early november, refusing to turn himself in to authorities in belize. that's
does and i'm dana king. the couple have been missing since last week's storm. they were found in the snow. roderick and his girlfriend paula lain were last seen at this 7-eleven before leaving for nevada. 15 minutes ago we learned that a relative who was looking for the couple found paula. she was found crawling in the snow. tonight she is in the hospital. the condition of her boyfriend is not yet known. it appears the couple got snuck in the snow and roderick throat get help. he never returned...
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the bay area plan that barely lost at the pol, and is now at the cent >>> i'm dana king. it will cost taxpayers thousands a day and in the end it could be money for nothing. the bay area plan that barely lost its holes and now is at the center of a expensive recount that and more at 6:00. >> thank you. >>> "cbs evening news with scott pelley" is next. >> remember the latest news and weather are always on cbssf.com. captions by: caption colorado comments@captioncolorado.com >> pelley: mr. obama explains his top condition for a deal to the way to recovery.
the bay area plan that barely lost at the pol, and is now at the cent >>> i'm dana king. it will cost taxpayers thousands a day and in the end it could be money for nothing. the bay area plan that barely lost its holes and now is at the center of a expensive recount that and more at 6:00. >> thank you. >>> "cbs evening news with scott pelley" is next. >> remember the latest news and weather are always on cbssf.com. captions by: caption colorado...
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but one of the nasti problems, isn' >>> i'm dana king. here's what we're working on for the 6:00 news. we showed you how the storms made a mess all over the bay area. but one of the nastiest problems isn't even on land. the filthy aftermath in the bay. and a new twist in the sag good afternoon a wanted software company founder -- saga of a wanted software company founder. how john mcafee said he elaborated authorities in belize. that and more at 6:00. >>> the "cbs evening news with scott pelley" is next. >> and remember, the latest news and weather are always on cbssf.com captions by: caption colorado comments@captioncolorado.com >> pelley: tonight, cuts in medicare and social security. that's the republican proposal. we have new details on how ever american's finances may change. white i can't tell andrews has the breaking news. wyatt tell andrews has the breaking news. elizabeth palmer with a family under fire. >> reportet'
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. >> and i'm dana king. let's get right to it with chief meteorologist paul deanno, who is tracking storm no. 3 on cbs 5 hi-def doppler. >> we have storm no. 3, not here yet. it will be about 24 more hours before the meat of that storm moves in. the hi-def doppler looking a lot dryer tonight. this time last night, we had all that pouring rain. that said, it's not dry everywhere. along alexander valley road, we're looking at some light to moderate showers there. cloverdale, we're wet. but we are dry from san francisco all the way up to san mateo. further south to mountain view and cupertino. this break continues. we'll see scattered showers on and off. but there's more heavy rainfall before we're finished. because of that next round of rain, storm no. 3, the flash flood watch for the north bay and the mountains continues. the flood watch for the russian river continues. rainfall totals from earlier today, morgan hill, palo alto, two-plus inches of rain. three inches for blackhawk. san francisco, at the airpor
. >> and i'm dana king. let's get right to it with chief meteorologist paul deanno, who is tracking storm no. 3 on cbs 5 hi-def doppler. >> we have storm no. 3, not here yet. it will be about 24 more hours before the meat of that storm moves in. the hi-def doppler looking a lot dryer tonight. this time last night, we had all that pouring rain. that said, it's not dry everywhere. along alexander valley road, we're looking at some light to moderate showers there. cloverdale, we're...
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. >> reporter: well, dana, i'm in daly city, a couple of weeks ago this neighborhood was covered in mud after around aging pipe cracked. this is just one example of how cities just don't have the money to keep up and maintain their systems even replace old systems. and engineers who recently did a study said, get ready for more catastrophes bay area- wide. a minnesota bridge designed in the 1960s to last 40 years suddenly collapses in 2007. 100 cars fell into the mississippi river. 13 people dead. poor pipeline welds and lack of inspections by pg&e caused the diddley explosion and incineration of -- deadly explosion and incineration of a san bruno neighborhood two years ago. aging pipes and storm drains, pushed past their limits sometimes by relentless storms. the american society of civil engineers says putting off maintenance work is not an option. >> pipelines that were designed to be in the ground for 30 years are now in the ground for 100 years. we are expecting the materials that were supposed to last 30 years to last 120 years. it's because we're not replacing these systems. >> r
. >> reporter: well, dana, i'm in daly city, a couple of weeks ago this neighborhood was covered in mud after around aging pipe cracked. this is just one example of how cities just don't have the money to keep up and maintain their systems even replace old systems. and engineers who recently did a study said, get ready for more catastrophes bay area- wide. a minnesota bridge designed in the 1960s to last 40 years suddenly collapses in 2007. 100 cars fell into the mississippi river. 13...
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. >> reporter: dana, we have a light rain here on ocean beach. the wind is whipping but for ocean beach standards this is a moderate breeze. they have just finished today the clean-up from last week's sewage spill. and city officials say they have been checking drains and manholes to be sure they don't have to come back out here again. it will be a busy weekend for you. >> absolutely. this is when we go into overdrive. >> reporter: the spokesman for the san francisco public utilities commission says city crews will be hard at work this weekend making sure the water and sewage systems can hand the expected rain. just last week a downpour forced sewage on to ocean beach. could it happen again. we hope not. we have done everything we could. we have cleared the system to have all the capacity to deal with the water this weekend. >> reporter: that unexpected leak of untreated water has happened before. six years ago. separately there are occasional discharges in the ocean not accidents. they are part of what the city calls its combined system. a syste
. >> reporter: dana, we have a light rain here on ocean beach. the wind is whipping but for ocean beach standards this is a moderate breeze. they have just finished today the clean-up from last week's sewage spill. and city officials say they have been checking drains and manholes to be sure they don't have to come back out here again. it will be a busy weekend for you. >> absolutely. this is when we go into overdrive. >> reporter: the spokesman for the san francisco public...
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. >> and i'm dana king. even her doctors don't know how she survived. a woman missing for a week was found by her brother who refused to give up the search. >> it's been a rough haul waiting all those days. >> cbs reporter describes the woman's ordeal as she waited and eventually went for help. >> last night -- >> reporter: linda says it's a miracle her sister survived. paul la lane spent six nights stranded in the elements. surviving on snow and tomatoes. >> she's a survivor. she loves life. >> reporter: last thursday paula and her boyfriend rod clifton were on their way back. rod left to find help but never returned. a day later, paula went looking too. >> it's been a rough haul waiting all those days trying to know if she made it or not. >> reporter: rod didn't survive and time was running out for paula. last night paula's family told her twin sons their mother may not be coming home. but shortly after that her brother found paula. >> when that call came from my brother it was a miracle. >> reporter: paula is expected to fully recover from nothing mo
. >> and i'm dana king. even her doctors don't know how she survived. a woman missing for a week was found by her brother who refused to give up the search. >> it's been a rough haul waiting all those days. >> cbs reporter describes the woman's ordeal as she waited and eventually went for help. >> last night -- >> reporter: linda says it's a miracle her sister survived. paul la lane spent six nights stranded in the elements. surviving on snow and tomatoes. >>...
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with a photograph of dana clair saying happy new year. you did that? >> yes, i did that. >> was it hard to keep your composure, though? >> i have praise for grace when i pray for justice. >> would debra edwards finally get justice for dana? i'm richard schlesinger. "48 hours." >> we'll find out. you can see the full report "everything to lose" tomorrow at 10:00, 9:00 central. >> catherine bigelow's new movie is winning awards and raising controversy. we'll talk about "zero dark 30." your local news is next. ,, well, well, well. growing up, we didn't have u-verse. we couldn't record four shows at the same time. in my day, you were lucky if you could record two shows. and if mom was recording her dumb show and dad was recording his dumb show then, by george, that's all we watched. and we liked it! today's kids got it so good. [ male announcer ] get u-verse tv with a total home dvr included free for life. only $29 a month for six months. >>> this is a cbs 5 eyewitness news morning update. >>> good morning it's 8:25. time for news headlines. a man is in se
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phil. >> reporter: that's right, dana. that's a good point. one of the ways to get people on board with this central subway, well, how about giving them a subway stop? here's the story. >> if we looked at the future of the city of san francisco it would make sense. >> reporter: that was the muni chief ed reiskin saying why he proposes to move the sway from chinatown to this abandoned theater in north beach. >> it would be great for north beach. it's an important neighborhood for the city. it would be great for the city. >> reporter: it would also be good politics. you see, the subway was going to stop here in chinatown. but to get all the equipment in and out to build it, they would have to keep boring on down the street to north beach and pull all the machinery out by digging a big pitch here at this intersection. >> it's going to disrupt the whole neighborhood and damage business. >> reporter: so the feeling was, chinatown gets the subway station and north beach gets the shaft. >> i've heard that phrase. now, i think they raised a very legit
phil. >> reporter: that's right, dana. that's a good point. one of the ways to get people on board with this central subway, well, how about giving them a subway stop? here's the story. >> if we looked at the future of the city of san francisco it would make sense. >> reporter: that was the muni chief ed reiskin saying why he proposes to move the sway from chinatown to this abandoned theater in north beach. >> it would be great for north beach. it's an important...
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. >> i'm dana king. a made in america is the latest interest apple. they are about to spend millions to begin making computers in the united states again. cbs 5 reporter len ramirez on how the company's trying to tap into a hot new consumer tren. len. >> it's a growing trend in the u.s. apple back in the day when it still had rainbow colors on it, and it was known as apple computers, it manufactured its computers here in the bay area in fremont. over the decades that's changed. but now it appears that it's coming back although not in a big way. apple fans love their iphones but ever look at the fine print? assembled in china. all apple products are made in china but that's about to change. >> on to the macintosh. >> reporter: ceo tim cook announced today that starting next year one line of macintosh computers will be designed and built in the u.s. cnet says with one like of macs and not the more popular iphone or ipad apple isn't taking a big risk but is making a statement. >> this is a big deal. it's a big differentiator for this company. >> reporter
. >> i'm dana king. a made in america is the latest interest apple. they are about to spend millions to begin making computers in the united states again. cbs 5 reporter len ramirez on how the company's trying to tap into a hot new consumer tren. len. >> it's a growing trend in the u.s. apple back in the day when it still had rainbow colors on it, and it was known as apple computers, it manufactured its computers here in the bay area in fremont. over the decades that's changed. but...
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i want to go to dana bash joining me on the phone here. dana, huge surprise to a lot of people. what's behind the resignation. >> reporter: a huge stunner. nobody saw it coming. i was told by a source close to demint he didn't accept the job until yesterday telling the staff this morning, called the governor in south carolina who, of course, will have to appoint the successor and told the republican leaders here. but look. the reason why it's such a surprise is because demint really has been over the past few years somebody who takes pride in his job. and the role that any one senator can do, which is to gum up the works and very much, obviously, an inside job. he said he could be better outside than inside an he said he feels better about leaving because he has been able to get a number -- really, half a dozen tea party-like conservatives elected. >> let me jump in, dana. i want to run through them because, you know, when we think senator demint we think of a tea party stronghold within the u.s. senate and helped and also hurt a number of republican candidates. who were they? >
i want to go to dana bash joining me on the phone here. dana, huge surprise to a lot of people. what's behind the resignation. >> reporter: a huge stunner. nobody saw it coming. i was told by a source close to demint he didn't accept the job until yesterday telling the staff this morning, called the governor in south carolina who, of course, will have to appoint the successor and told the republican leaders here. but look. the reason why it's such a surprise is because demint really has...
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dana, thanks very much. and i'm joined now by senator demint along with heritage foundation founding trustee, the current president, we see the outgoing president, ed feulner, thanks for coming in. we're going to talk a little about the state of the heritage foundation and the republican party. the senator's here, the newsmaker, you shocked all of us. why did you do this? >> wolf, after this last election it's apparent we need to do more as conservatives to convince americans that our ideas and policies are going to make their lives better. the heritage foundation is the premier think tank, research organization, the premier idea group for the conservative movement. this will give me the opportunity to help take our case to the american people. and to translate our policies into real ideas. >> so you think you can be more influential within the conservative movement as the leader of the heritage foundation as oppose today a united states senator? >> there's no question about it. >> what does that say about t
dana, thanks very much. and i'm joined now by senator demint along with heritage foundation founding trustee, the current president, we see the outgoing president, ed feulner, thanks for coming in. we're going to talk a little about the state of the heritage foundation and the republican party. the senator's here, the newsmaker, you shocked all of us. why did you do this? >> wolf, after this last election it's apparent we need to do more as conservatives to convince americans that our...
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. >> do it well but don't overdo it dana, straight play it straight. but i value you. >> governor, we value you. >> thank you. >> thank you so much for joining us this morning and we will see you next weekend. >> great to be with you. >> all right. see you then. >> all right. go juliet. >> thanks. >> ladies first. >> security fear as possible plan to bring gitmo detainees to america. why one military mom says it's a slap to face son and brave soldiers. >> hands off unless you are 19 or older. some lawmakers want to put a drinking age on energy drinks. is the government going too far? hands off my red bull. why is it that the most impressive technology often comes with a set of equally impressive instructions ? shouldn't something that's truly advanced, not need much explanation at all ? with the nokia lumia 822 on verizon, there's not much to learn because it's powered by windows... to let you do more than you ever imagined on your smartphone. exclusively with data sense-- a feature that makes the most of your plan. only on verizon. >> welcome back to
. >> do it well but don't overdo it dana, straight play it straight. but i value you. >> governor, we value you. >> thank you. >> thank you so much for joining us this morning and we will see you next weekend. >> great to be with you. >> all right. see you then. >> all right. go juliet. >> thanks. >> ladies first. >> security fear as possible plan to bring gitmo detainees to america. why one military mom says it's a slap to face son...
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dana bash has the details. >> rates are going up they have to go up. >> the fact that the house gop leaders propose raising $800 billion in taxes is ruffling feathers in their own party. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money negotiating with ourselves entry in the president's proposal like it is serious. >> gop senator jim demint said anti-government anti- tax paris. >> there are some that want to go the politically expedient route to give the president what he wants to get out of this mess. >> he is hardly the conservative upset with house republican leaders. the conservative action networks in this alert supporters sang card rep tell your representative tax hikes are not part of the solution. the e-mail included a not so subtle threat saying this infamous pledge cost george h. w. bush reelection. >> read my lips. >> aware of the potential blow back that could imperil his leadership john boehner careful to include in other proposal leaders. including paul ryan who spent months on the campaign trail ordinance against tax increases. >> we will cu
dana bash has the details. >> rates are going up they have to go up. >> the fact that the house gop leaders propose raising $800 billion in taxes is ruffling feathers in their own party. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money negotiating with ourselves entry in the president's proposal like it is serious. >> gop senator jim demint said anti-government anti- tax paris. >> there are some that want to go the politically...
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where the person was thrown 30 feet into the air, that's the intersection targeted for the stop light, dana. we're told that should be up and running by 2014. >> thank you, mark sayre. >>> baby products are at the center of a new lawsuit by a bay area consumer group. juliette goodrich explains why one group calls them a health hazard. >> reporter: they are calling them chemical ticking time bombs. this warning label only warns about the plastic bag. it's not warning them about what's inside. i'll show you. it's this foam product. and according to this environmental group, it's the foam that has the cancer- causing agent in it. >> today she took her first long crawl across the floor and then grabbed her favorite toy and immediately stuck it in her mouth. >> reporter: the baby is being protected from toxic exposure. her mom california policy director with the center of environmental health and other members announcing today legal action against major retailers forcing them to stop selling foam products that contain high levels of chlorinated tris a cancer-causing flame retardant that exceeds
where the person was thrown 30 feet into the air, that's the intersection targeted for the stop light, dana. we're told that should be up and running by 2014. >> thank you, mark sayre. >>> baby products are at the center of a new lawsuit by a bay area consumer group. juliette goodrich explains why one group calls them a health hazard. >> reporter: they are calling them chemical ticking time bombs. this warning label only warns about the plastic bag. it's not warning them...
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so if you're trying to handicap the negotiations, you'd have to concede that dana is on to something. >> really. so -- >> at least like the starting point. so basically the starting point for the republicans is what president obama probably would have viewed as a victory if they had the negotiation. >> yeah, he wanted another 400 supposed supposedly. how does simpson-bowles get to -- how does it raise revenue? what's the number that it raises? >> well, it depends because they have a bunch of different simpson-bowles plans. like in the bowles-simpson report, there are three different tax plans and then the thing that the republicans modeled after was something that bowles said in a hearing. >> it's interesting when you look at what these plans are laid out, yesterday tim geithner said the republicans have not told them how they plan on raising any of this money and that's the big problem they have with this deal. >> i don't think that's true. it's very, very easy to have some kind of bas broadening that raises that much money. the revenues are very easy to make line up especially over
so if you're trying to handicap the negotiations, you'd have to concede that dana is on to something. >> really. so -- >> at least like the starting point. so basically the starting point for the republicans is what president obama probably would have viewed as a victory if they had the negotiation. >> yeah, he wanted another 400 supposed supposedly. how does simpson-bowles get to -- how does it raise revenue? what's the number that it raises? >> well, it depends because...
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dana points is the editor-in-chief of "parents" magazine. dana, good morning. >> good morning. >> something near and dear, my kids are both picky eaters rgt forget the chicken fingers and french fries. there are healthier options out there. >> there, and sometimes when kids are out and seeing other people and seeing what other people order in a restaurant setting, they might be more likely to try something so as parent we have not default to i know what you want and order you the chicken fingers. >> you came up a calm of things, sampled 15 different chain restaurants and the we picked four today. a lot was factored, nutritionalfall value, cost and taste. >> dieticians who are also looking over the menu, idea that the meals would have vegetables in them. >> let's go first, chipotle mexico grilled kids taco meal. >> love to eat with their hands, have it with either the hard shell or shot shell and put the beans and vegetables in ours, and if your kid is adventurous comes with the carnitas, lime chips, 380 calories where you want to be for a ch
dana points is the editor-in-chief of "parents" magazine. dana, good morning. >> good morning. >> something near and dear, my kids are both picky eaters rgt forget the chicken fingers and french fries. there are healthier options out there. >> there, and sometimes when kids are out and seeing other people and seeing what other people order in a restaurant setting, they might be more likely to try something so as parent we have not default to i know what you want and...